http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm
Encore des témoignages qu'on a bel et bien démolie de façon controllée ce building, malgré les efforts de la version officielle pour nier le tout.
Et tiens, une panoplies de vidéo de la tour no.7 ici: http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7/gallery.html
La tour no.7: demolition controllée et mensonges
La tour no.7: demolition controllée et mensonges
Dernière modification par Petrov le 17 févr. 2007, 02:51, modifié 1 fois.
Haha oui, comme il n'y avait rien de neuf depuis des mois, cet imbécile reprend évidement ce faux témoignage, anonyme forcément, du site de Dylan Avery ! 
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
Re: La tour no.7: demolition controllée et mensonges
Aha tu as tout à l'envers mon cher: la théorie de la démolition controllée ne tiens pas la route une seule seconde, malgré les efforts des théoristes pour nier le tout ...Petrov a écrit :http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm
Encore des témoignages qu'on a bel et bien démolie de façon controllée ce building, malgré les efforts de la version officielle pour nier le tout.
Tu *veux* à ce point croire à un complot que tu va aller jusqu'à croire n'importe quel délir fumeux?
Re: La tour no.7: demolition controllée et mensonges
Et toi, à quoi veux tu croire?Chiwaw a écrit :Aha tu as tout à l'envers mon cher: la théorie de la démolition controllée ne tiens pas la route une seule seconde, malgré les efforts des théoristes pour nier le tout ...Petrov a écrit :http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm
Encore des témoignages qu'on a bel et bien démolie de façon controllée ce building, malgré les efforts de la version officielle pour nier le tout.
Tu *veux* à ce point croire à un complot que tu va aller jusqu'à croire n'importe quel délir fumeux?
Re: La tour no.7: demolition controllée et mensonges
En tout cas pas en ce fou furieux d'Alex Jones !Petrov a écrit : Et toi, à quoi veux tu croire?
Ca prent pas la tete a Papinau pour savoir que le #7 a ete une demolision controler, deplus ils on utiltiler la facon la plus conventionelle (du bas en haut), contrairement aux #1 et 2 ( du haut en bas)
ils sont payer ou stupidl les expert du 911 de se forum?
Denis a dit qu il changerais de coter pour 5000$......on sais jamais..
Se qui me surprent c est que denis est tres logique sur tout les autre sujet de ce forum, mais aucunement pour le 911
Un fait demeure un fait , pour un expert en demolision controler c est une question aussi simple que de dire la couleur d une pomme....
ils sont payer ou stupidl les expert du 911 de se forum?
Denis a dit qu il changerais de coter pour 5000$......on sais jamais..
Se qui me surprent c est que denis est tres logique sur tout les autre sujet de ce forum, mais aucunement pour le 911
Un fait demeure un fait , pour un expert en demolision controler c est une question aussi simple que de dire la couleur d une pomme....
Craig Bartmer, ancien policier du NYPD témoigne des explosions:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... &q=bartmer
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... &q=bartmer
Témoins qui ont été averti que la tour no.7 allait être démolie:
1) Firefighter Thomas Smith: "They backed me off the rig because seven was in dead jeopardy, so they backed everybody off and moved us to the rear end of Vesey Street. We just stood there for a half hour, 40 minutes, because seven was in imminent collapse and finally did come down." (Interview, 12/6/2001)
2) Firefighter Vincent Massa: "At this point Seven World Trade Center was going heavy, and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down. ... I remember later on in the day as we were waiting for seven to come down, they kept backing us up Vesey, almost like a full block. They were concerned about seven coming down, and they kept changing us, establishing a collapse zone and backing us up." (Interview, 12/4/2001)
3) Firefighter Tiernach Cassidy: "Then, like I said, building seven was in eminent collapse. They blew the horns. They said everyone clear the area until we got that last civilian out. We tried to give another quick search while we could, but then they wouldn't let us stay anymore. So we cleared the area. ... So yeah, then we just stayed on Vesey until building seven came down." (Interview, 12/30/2001)
4) Indira Singh, a volunteer EMT: "What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon after noon, after midday on 9/11, we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down. ... I do believe that they brought Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable, because of the collateral damage. ... By noon or one o'clock they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University, a little further away, because Building 7 was gonna come down or being brought down. ... There was another panic around four o'clock because they were bringing the building down and people seemed to know this ahead of time, so people were panicking again and running." (KPFA, 4/27/2005)
5) EMT Joseph Fortis: "When the third building came down, we were on that corner in front of the school, and everybody just stood back. They pulled us all back at the time, almost about an hour before it, because they were sure -- they knew it was going to come down, but they weren't sure. So they pulled everyone back, and everybody stood there and we actually just waited and just waited and waited until it went down, because it was unsafe." (Interview, 11/9/2001)
6) Fire Chief Thomas McCarthy: "So when I get to the command post, they just had a flood of guys standing there. They were just waiting for 7 to come down. ... I made it down Vesey Street to just in front of the overpass of 7 World Trade. People were saying don't stand under there, it's going to come down. ... So at that point we were a little leery about how the bridge was tied in, so no one was really going onto it, and then they were also saying 7 was going to come down. They chased everyone off the block." (Interview, 10/11/2001)
7) Firefighter Matthew Long: "And at that point they were worried that 7 was coming down so they were calling for everyone to back out. ... Because they were just adamant about 7 coming down immediately. I think we probably got out of that rubble and 18 minutes later is when 7 came down." (Interview, 10/9/2001)
8) Firefighter Edward Kennedy: "That was the only Mayday that I remember, and to tell you the truth, the only guy that really stands out in my mind that I remember being on the radio was Chief Visconti. ... I remember him screaming about 7, No. 7, that they wanted everybody away from 7 because 7 was definitely going to collapse, they don't know when, but it's definitely going to come down, just get the hell out of the way, everybody get away from it, make sure you're away from it, that's an order, you know, stuff like that." (Interview, 1/17/2002)
9) Paramedic Louis Cook: "We got to Chambers and Greenwich, and the chief turns around and says, 'There's number Seven World Trade. That's the OEM bunker.' We had a snicker about that. We looked over, and it's engulfed in flames and starting to collapse. ... We hear over the fire portable, 'Everybody evacuate the site. It's going to collapse.' Mark Steffens starts yelling, 'Get out of here! Get out of here! Get out of here! We've got to go! We've got to go! It's going to collapse.' ... We pulled the car over, turned around and just watched it pancake." (Interview, 10/17/2001)
10) Battalion Fire Chief John Norman: "After we found Chief Ganci, in addition to recon, I was detailed to make sure the collapse zone for 7 WTC had been set up and was being maintained. The sector commanders were trying to clear out of that area. We expected it to fall to the south, into the areas we were searching." (John Norman, "Search and Rescue Operations," Fire Engineering, 10/2002)
John Norman (in another account): "Now we're still worried about 7. We have guys trying to make their way up into the pile, and they're telling us that 7 is going to fall down - and that was one of the directions from the command post, to make sure we clear the collapse zone from 7 and this is a 600-foot-tall building, so we had to clear a 600-foot radius from that building." ("WTC: This Is Their Story," Firehouse, 5/2002)
11) Deputy Fire Chief Nick Visconti: "Now, World Trade Center 7 was burning and I was thinking to myself, how come they're not trying to put this fire out? ... At some point, Frank Fellini said, now we've got hundreds of guys out there, hundreds and hundreds, and that's on the West Street side alone. He said to me, Nick, you've got to get those people out of there. I thought to myself, out of where? Frank, what do you want, Chief? He answered, 7 World Trade Center, imminent collapse, we've got to get those people out of there. ... There were a couple of chiefs out there who I knew and I called them individually. I said to them, listen, start backing those people out, we need them back up to the command post. While this was going on, I saw individual company officers. I was whistling, Captain, bring your guys this way. I was getting some resistance. The common thing was, hey, we've still got people here, we don't want to leave. I explained to them that we were worried about 7, that it was going to come down and we didn't want to get anybody trapped in the collapse. One comment was, oh, that building is never coming down, that didn't get hit by a plane, why isn't somebody in there putting the fire out? A lot of comments, a bit of resistance, understandable resistance." ("WTC: This Is Their Story," Firehouse, 8/2002)
12) Firefighter James Wallace: "They were saying building seven was going to collapse, so we regrouped and went back to our rig. We went to building four or three; I don't know. We were going to set up our tower ladder there. They said no good because building seven is coming down." (Interview, 12/29/2001)
13) Fire Captain Robert Sohmer: "As the day went on they started worrying about 7 World Trade Center collapsing and they ordered an evacuation from that area so at that time, we left the area with the other companies, went back to the command post on Broadway ... We were about to proceed our operation there and this was in the afternoon, I would say approximately maybe 2:00 roughly, where we started to operate and then they asked us to fall back again due to the potential of 7 World Trade Center collapsing." (Interview, 1/17/2002)
14) Fire Lieutenant William Ryan: "Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse. So, of course, we've got guys all in this pile over here and the main concern was get everybody out, and I guess it took us over an hour and a half, two hours to get everybody out of there. ... So it took us a while and we ended up backing everybody out, and that's when 7 collapsed." (Interview, 10/18/2001)
15) Fire Captain Brenda Berkman: "We no sooner got going on something there when a chief came along and said, 'Everybody's got to leave the area. We're afraid that Seven World Trade is going to fall down.' The whole south side of Seven World Trade had been hit by the collapse of the second Tower, and there was fire on every floor." (Susan Hagen and Mary Carouba, Women at Ground Zero, 2002, p. 213)
(article complet:: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm )
Pourquoi tant de gens ont été averti alors que les rapports officielles ignorent pourquoi la tour no.7 est tombée? Si ils savaient qu'elle allait tombée, ils devaient savoir pourquoi!
Dormez mes naifs, vous voulez pas savoir la vérité...
1) Firefighter Thomas Smith: "They backed me off the rig because seven was in dead jeopardy, so they backed everybody off and moved us to the rear end of Vesey Street. We just stood there for a half hour, 40 minutes, because seven was in imminent collapse and finally did come down." (Interview, 12/6/2001)
2) Firefighter Vincent Massa: "At this point Seven World Trade Center was going heavy, and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down. ... I remember later on in the day as we were waiting for seven to come down, they kept backing us up Vesey, almost like a full block. They were concerned about seven coming down, and they kept changing us, establishing a collapse zone and backing us up." (Interview, 12/4/2001)
3) Firefighter Tiernach Cassidy: "Then, like I said, building seven was in eminent collapse. They blew the horns. They said everyone clear the area until we got that last civilian out. We tried to give another quick search while we could, but then they wouldn't let us stay anymore. So we cleared the area. ... So yeah, then we just stayed on Vesey until building seven came down." (Interview, 12/30/2001)
4) Indira Singh, a volunteer EMT: "What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon after noon, after midday on 9/11, we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down. ... I do believe that they brought Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable, because of the collateral damage. ... By noon or one o'clock they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University, a little further away, because Building 7 was gonna come down or being brought down. ... There was another panic around four o'clock because they were bringing the building down and people seemed to know this ahead of time, so people were panicking again and running." (KPFA, 4/27/2005)
5) EMT Joseph Fortis: "When the third building came down, we were on that corner in front of the school, and everybody just stood back. They pulled us all back at the time, almost about an hour before it, because they were sure -- they knew it was going to come down, but they weren't sure. So they pulled everyone back, and everybody stood there and we actually just waited and just waited and waited until it went down, because it was unsafe." (Interview, 11/9/2001)
6) Fire Chief Thomas McCarthy: "So when I get to the command post, they just had a flood of guys standing there. They were just waiting for 7 to come down. ... I made it down Vesey Street to just in front of the overpass of 7 World Trade. People were saying don't stand under there, it's going to come down. ... So at that point we were a little leery about how the bridge was tied in, so no one was really going onto it, and then they were also saying 7 was going to come down. They chased everyone off the block." (Interview, 10/11/2001)
7) Firefighter Matthew Long: "And at that point they were worried that 7 was coming down so they were calling for everyone to back out. ... Because they were just adamant about 7 coming down immediately. I think we probably got out of that rubble and 18 minutes later is when 7 came down." (Interview, 10/9/2001)
8) Firefighter Edward Kennedy: "That was the only Mayday that I remember, and to tell you the truth, the only guy that really stands out in my mind that I remember being on the radio was Chief Visconti. ... I remember him screaming about 7, No. 7, that they wanted everybody away from 7 because 7 was definitely going to collapse, they don't know when, but it's definitely going to come down, just get the hell out of the way, everybody get away from it, make sure you're away from it, that's an order, you know, stuff like that." (Interview, 1/17/2002)
9) Paramedic Louis Cook: "We got to Chambers and Greenwich, and the chief turns around and says, 'There's number Seven World Trade. That's the OEM bunker.' We had a snicker about that. We looked over, and it's engulfed in flames and starting to collapse. ... We hear over the fire portable, 'Everybody evacuate the site. It's going to collapse.' Mark Steffens starts yelling, 'Get out of here! Get out of here! Get out of here! We've got to go! We've got to go! It's going to collapse.' ... We pulled the car over, turned around and just watched it pancake." (Interview, 10/17/2001)
10) Battalion Fire Chief John Norman: "After we found Chief Ganci, in addition to recon, I was detailed to make sure the collapse zone for 7 WTC had been set up and was being maintained. The sector commanders were trying to clear out of that area. We expected it to fall to the south, into the areas we were searching." (John Norman, "Search and Rescue Operations," Fire Engineering, 10/2002)
John Norman (in another account): "Now we're still worried about 7. We have guys trying to make their way up into the pile, and they're telling us that 7 is going to fall down - and that was one of the directions from the command post, to make sure we clear the collapse zone from 7 and this is a 600-foot-tall building, so we had to clear a 600-foot radius from that building." ("WTC: This Is Their Story," Firehouse, 5/2002)
11) Deputy Fire Chief Nick Visconti: "Now, World Trade Center 7 was burning and I was thinking to myself, how come they're not trying to put this fire out? ... At some point, Frank Fellini said, now we've got hundreds of guys out there, hundreds and hundreds, and that's on the West Street side alone. He said to me, Nick, you've got to get those people out of there. I thought to myself, out of where? Frank, what do you want, Chief? He answered, 7 World Trade Center, imminent collapse, we've got to get those people out of there. ... There were a couple of chiefs out there who I knew and I called them individually. I said to them, listen, start backing those people out, we need them back up to the command post. While this was going on, I saw individual company officers. I was whistling, Captain, bring your guys this way. I was getting some resistance. The common thing was, hey, we've still got people here, we don't want to leave. I explained to them that we were worried about 7, that it was going to come down and we didn't want to get anybody trapped in the collapse. One comment was, oh, that building is never coming down, that didn't get hit by a plane, why isn't somebody in there putting the fire out? A lot of comments, a bit of resistance, understandable resistance." ("WTC: This Is Their Story," Firehouse, 8/2002)
12) Firefighter James Wallace: "They were saying building seven was going to collapse, so we regrouped and went back to our rig. We went to building four or three; I don't know. We were going to set up our tower ladder there. They said no good because building seven is coming down." (Interview, 12/29/2001)
13) Fire Captain Robert Sohmer: "As the day went on they started worrying about 7 World Trade Center collapsing and they ordered an evacuation from that area so at that time, we left the area with the other companies, went back to the command post on Broadway ... We were about to proceed our operation there and this was in the afternoon, I would say approximately maybe 2:00 roughly, where we started to operate and then they asked us to fall back again due to the potential of 7 World Trade Center collapsing." (Interview, 1/17/2002)
14) Fire Lieutenant William Ryan: "Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse. So, of course, we've got guys all in this pile over here and the main concern was get everybody out, and I guess it took us over an hour and a half, two hours to get everybody out of there. ... So it took us a while and we ended up backing everybody out, and that's when 7 collapsed." (Interview, 10/18/2001)
15) Fire Captain Brenda Berkman: "We no sooner got going on something there when a chief came along and said, 'Everybody's got to leave the area. We're afraid that Seven World Trade is going to fall down.' The whole south side of Seven World Trade had been hit by the collapse of the second Tower, and there was fire on every floor." (Susan Hagen and Mary Carouba, Women at Ground Zero, 2002, p. 213)
(article complet:: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... lding7.htm )
Pourquoi tant de gens ont été averti alors que les rapports officielles ignorent pourquoi la tour no.7 est tombée? Si ils savaient qu'elle allait tombée, ils devaient savoir pourquoi!
Dormez mes naifs, vous voulez pas savoir la vérité...
Alors là bravo ! Tous disent qu'ils étaient certain que l'immeuble allait s'effondrer (TOUT SEUL !!!) PAS qu'ils allaient le faire tomber par explosifs !!! Certains témoignages parlent des dégats et d'incendies et de l'effondrement probable vers le sud ! Et ce en début d'après-midi déjà, il ne s'est effondré que bien plus tard... Qui a vu des équipes de démolition sur place ? PERSONNE !!!
"So they pulled everyone back"
! Tous disent qu'ils étaient certain que l'immeuble allait s'effondrer (TOUT SEUL !!!) PAS qu'ils allaient le faire tomber par explosifs !!! Certains témoignages parlent des dégats et d'incendies et de l'effondrement probable vers le sud ! Et ce en début d'après-midi déjà, il ne s'est effondré que bien plus tard... Qui a vu des équipes de démolition sur place ? PERSONNE !!! "So they pulled everyone back"
Oui ils parlent d'écroulement, et comme je l'ai indiqué: pourquoi si ils savaient le jour même que la tour allait s'écrouler qu'ils ignoraient dans leurs rapports officielles? Et pourquoi allaient elles s'écrouler ces tours?
Il y a des gens qui savaient pourquoi la tour no.7 allait tomber et ces gens ont averti des gens. Ce n'est pas une preuve de démolition controllée mais c'est une preuve qu'il y avait des gens haut placé qui savait que la tour allait tomber, alors que les enqueteurs officiels n'ont pu identifier la cause de l'écroulement. Si des personnes haut placés savaient que la tours allait tomber ils devaient savoir pourquoi. Voila.
Il y a des gens qui savaient pourquoi la tour no.7 allait tomber et ces gens ont averti des gens. Ce n'est pas une preuve de démolition controllée mais c'est une preuve qu'il y avait des gens haut placé qui savait que la tour allait tomber, alors que les enqueteurs officiels n'ont pu identifier la cause de l'écroulement. Si des personnes haut placés savaient que la tours allait tomber ils devaient savoir pourquoi. Voila.
Ce ne sont pas "des gens hauts placés" qui "savaient", mais les pompiers qui craignaient cet effondrement qui ont d'abord cessé de combattre les nombreux incendies à l'intérieur du 7 avant d'évacuer la zone dangereuse en début d'après-midi. le batiment a encore résisté quelques heures. Comment ils le savaient ? Demande-le leur ! Je suppose qu'ils ont de l'expérience ! Les dégats IMPORTANTS du côté sud et les nombreux incendies dans un immeuble en acier leur faisait craindre le pire !
...so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn't lose any more people.
There were guys going into areas that I wasn’t even really comfortable with, because of the possibility of secondary collapses. We didn’t know how stable any of this area was. We pulled everybody back probably by 3 or 3:30 in the afternoon. We said, this building is going to come down, get back. It came down about 5 o’clock or so, but we had everybody backed away by then.
Étrange mais les enqueteurs n'ont pas eu la brillante idée de leur demander... Étrange également qu'on ne parle pas des dégats importants du coté sud dans le rapport de la commission 9/11 (pas plus de la démolition de la tour no.7). Étrange aussi qu'on ait investi qu'une somme minime pour cette enquête. Et combien d'autres étranges choses se sont passé ce jour là...Gédehem a écrit :Comment ils le savaient ? Demande-le leur ! Je suppose qu'ils ont de l'expérience ! Les dégats IMPORTANTS du côté sud et les nombreux incendies dans un immeuble en acier leur faisait craindre le pire !
Craindre le pire et affirmer que ça va s'effondrer c'est deux choses. On peut craindre que ça va s'effondrer, et encore sur quoi se base t'on puisque jamais les flammes n'ont fait écrouler aucun building de ce genre avant? Mais ici il est plus question d'affirmation, la tour va s'écrouler. Donc, dans ce cas il est certain que ceux qui ont lancé l'avertissement savait pourquoi ça allait s'éffondrer.
Le sketch des croissants
Salut Petrov,
Tu dis :
En effet.Craindre le pire et affirmer que ça va s'effondrer c'est deux choses.
Dans le cas du WTC7, les pompiers sur place ont constaté que les dégâts étaient tellement énormes qu'il y avait un réel danger d'effondrement. Et quand il y a un réel danger d'effondrement, la meilleure chose à faire, c'est de retirer tout le monde. C'est ce qu'ils ont fait et l'avenir leur a donné raison.
Tu dis aussi :
On est rendus à 11 (ou à 21). Référence.sur quoi se base t'on puisque jamais les flammes n'ont fait écrouler aucun building de ce genre avant?
Atteindras tu le 12 (ou le 22) avant la fin du mois ? Les paris sont ouverts.Dans cette référence, Denis a écrit :la prochaine fois (la 11ième ou la 21ième, je n'ai pas compté) que tu nous ressortiras cette niaiserie de l'incendie seul, je n'aurai qu'à te référer au présent message. Tout le monde sauvera du temps.
Si la tendance se maintient, tu devrais atteindre le 60 (ou le 70) d'ici la fin de l'année.
Connais tu le célèbre "sketch des croissants" de Fernand Reynaud ? Même pattern. Si tu atteins le 20~25, tu vas probablement battre son record.
DenisLes meilleures sorties de route sont celles qui font le moins de tonneaux.
WTC is about to "blow up"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU_43SwWD9A
Portez votre attention aux premières secondes de ce video, qui a passé à CNN. Les gars semble approcher un cable pour relier à un engin de démolition! De plus, écoutez ce qu'il dit:
"it's blowin' boy"
C'est entrin d'exploser mec
"Did you hear that?"
T'as entendu là ?
"Keep your eye on that building, it's coming down"
Garde un oeil sur ce building, c'est entrin de tomber
"Building is going to blow up, move it back"
Et il serait très interessant de savoir qui est ce gars, pour qui il travail? Je dirais Controlled Demolition inc.
Et tiens, une panoplies de vidéo de la tour no.7 ici: http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7/gallery.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU_43SwWD9A
Portez votre attention aux premières secondes de ce video, qui a passé à CNN. Les gars semble approcher un cable pour relier à un engin de démolition! De plus, écoutez ce qu'il dit:
"it's blowin' boy"
C'est entrin d'exploser mec
"Did you hear that?"
T'as entendu là ?
"Keep your eye on that building, it's coming down"
Garde un oeil sur ce building, c'est entrin de tomber
"Building is going to blow up, move it back"
Et il serait très interessant de savoir qui est ce gars, pour qui il travail? Je dirais Controlled Demolition inc.
Et tiens, une panoplies de vidéo de la tour no.7 ici: http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7/gallery.html
Effectivement, d'ailleurs ce gars n'est pas un pompier. S'il avait été un pompier, il aurait du avoir un habit qui va avec le titre d'emplois. Il a plus l'air d'un travailleur de construction, ou dans ce cas ci de démolition. Et je mettrais ma main au feu pour dire que c'est un gars de Controlled Demolition inc.Stradlyn a écrit :Excusez moi si je me trompe, mais il me semble que c'est une pelle que ce gars la a dans les mains, pas l'appareil de pompiers...
On passe la commande tout de suite ?
Salut Petrov,
Tu dis :
On passe la commande tout de suite ?Et je mettrais ma main au feu pour dire que c'est un gars de Controlled Demolition inc.
Pour le 911, c'est quoi, déjà, leur numéro ?
DenisLes meilleures sorties de route sont celles qui font le moins de tonneaux.
Concernant le "pull it" j'ai demandé à un ami anglophone si ça pouvait être utiliser pour faire sortir quelqu'un, voici sa réponse:
Et vous, avez-vous des amis anglophones? Demandez leurs!non parce que "it" ne marche pas en anglais en utilisant des personnes. Il n y a pas de neutre en anglais quand on parle des choses masculin/feminin. Donc, pour ton exemple, on utilise pull him/her out au lieu de "it". "It" sera pour des choses sans genre.
La question à mes yeux c'est plutôt de savoir comment nos amis anglophones s'y prennent quand ils veulent évoquer des noms se rapportant à un groupe de personne. Quel pronom emploieraient-ils pour désigner:non parce que "it" ne marche pas en anglais en utilisant des personnes. Il n y a pas de neutre en anglais quand on parle des choses masculin/feminin. Donc, pour ton exemple, on utilise pull him/her out au lieu de "it". "It" sera pour des choses sans genre.
-L'équipe de France de football?
-L'assemblée nationale?
-Le fan club de Céline Dion?
-L'équipe de secours?...
Pourquoi ne pas demander Petrov directement sur le forum où Abel Chemoul t'as découvert? Les anglophones n'y manquent pas et en plus on y parle du 11 septembre.
Je suppose que cette video ne vous satisfait pas non plus ? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHdt7wRQtaY
http://www.stevespak.com/fires/manhattan/myths.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHdt7wRQtaY
http://www.stevespak.com/fires/manhattan/myths.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHdt7wRQtaY
C'était le WTC7 ? Celui qui s'est effondré suite à l'incendie causé par les débris de l'autre WTC ? Et à cause de ces débris dont on voit les traces d'impact sur les coins de l'immeuble, un incendie pareil sur plusieurs étages se serait développé ? Le même jour où les deux autres se sont eux aussi effondrés à Manhattan ? Le Manhattan des WTC ? Celui de Wall Street et du Central park ? Le Manhattan de Woody Allen ?
Merdum ! Y a-t-il quelqu'un qui puisse croire pareille blague ?
C'était le WTC7 ? Celui qui s'est effondré suite à l'incendie causé par les débris de l'autre WTC ? Et à cause de ces débris dont on voit les traces d'impact sur les coins de l'immeuble, un incendie pareil sur plusieurs étages se serait développé ? Le même jour où les deux autres se sont eux aussi effondrés à Manhattan ? Le Manhattan des WTC ? Celui de Wall Street et du Central park ? Le Manhattan de Woody Allen ? Merdum ! Y a-t-il quelqu'un qui puisse croire pareille blague ? Qui est en ligne ?
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