Ca ne concerne pas le débat Evolution/Création mais j'en parle quand même sur ce forum, vue que ça concerne quand même les débordements de la religion, cette fois-ci dans le cadre de la morale sexuelle :
http://membres.lycos.fr/emergence67/HTML/laura.htm
(peut-être que certains connaissent déjà...)
Rions un peu avec la Foi
Rions un peu avec la Foi
La zététique appliquée à elle-même : http://metazet.over-blog.com/
"Pour douter, ne faut-il pas des raisons qui fondent le doute ?" (Ludwig Wittgenstein, De la certitude, § 122)
"Esprit : Chacun sait ce que c'est qu'un esprit ; c'est ce qui n'est point matière. Toutes les fois que vous ne saurez pas comment une cause agit, vous n'aurez qu'à dire que cette cause est un esprit, et vous serez très pleinement éclairci." (Le baron d'Holbach, Théologie portative ou Dictionnaire abrégé de la religion chrétienne)
"Pour douter, ne faut-il pas des raisons qui fondent le doute ?" (Ludwig Wittgenstein, De la certitude, § 122)
"Esprit : Chacun sait ce que c'est qu'un esprit ; c'est ce qui n'est point matière. Toutes les fois que vous ne saurez pas comment une cause agit, vous n'aurez qu'à dire que cette cause est un esprit, et vous serez très pleinement éclairci." (Le baron d'Holbach, Théologie portative ou Dictionnaire abrégé de la religion chrétienne)
Très connue des forums néo-Nazis cette 'brave' dame. Quelques détails:
http://www.who2.com/lauraschlesinger.html :
>In 1975, after a dozen years as a family therapist, Laura Schlessinger
>called into a Los Angeles radio program and hit it off so well with the
>host that she was soon a regular guest. Eventually she had her own
>show, and by 1994 had launched her syndicated advice show, calling
>herself "Dr. Laura" (she has a PhD. in Physiology).
Ce n'est pas une psy-quelque chose.
>Extra credit: Dr. Laura boasts a black belt in martial arts...
Personne n'est parfait.
>In 1998 she was the subject of controversy after nude photos of her,
>taken 20 years earlier by talk radio personality Bill Ballance, were
>published on the Internet... The same year she called homosexuality
>a "biological error," setting off a long-running feud with gay activists.
Bref, la morale est un bel alibi ou ça lui est venu sur le tard.
http://www.angelfire.com/journal/artdlj ... html#(4.7):
>DL has been married twice. After getting her doctorate at Columbia, she
>married "a very nice guy I shouldn't have married." It lasted 2 1/2
>years ("26 minutes in my mind"), and there were no children. ('Dr.
>Laura explains it all', by Laura Berman, The Detroit News 10/18/96)
>http://detnews.com/1996/menu/stories/70170.htm
>After moving to California, DL began seeing Lew Bishop, a professor of
>neuro-physiology and married father of three. Lew eventually divorced
>his wife. According to DL friend Shelly Herman (interviewed for the
>Vanity Fair article), DL and Lew lived together for about nine years
>before marrying. At some point in their relationship DL had her tubal
>ligation reversed and underwent fertility treatment in an effort to
>conceive. Shelly Herman claimed that DL was pregnant when she
>married Lew, which DL denies.
Rien que de très banal... pour un agnostique ou un athée.
Et comme les conseilleurs ne sont pas toujours les payeurs:
>She opposes mixed-faith marriages on the grounds that it leads to
>confusion in the children and discord in the marriage. However, DL
>herself had a mixed-faith marriage until her husband Lew converted to
>Orthodox Judaism in early 1998.
Pour faire bonne mesure:
>4.11) Did DL really have an affair while she was married?
>
>Yes, while married to her first husband she began a relationship with
>radio talk show personality Bill Ballance.
L'adultère, c'est bien puni de lapidation dans la Bible, non ?
>She had claimed the
>relationship was no more than a mentoring one featuring a few lunches.
>When interviewed for the Vanity Fair article Ballance refuted this claim,
>stating they'd had a passionate two-year affair until she left him for Lew
>Bishop. Only after the October 1998 publication of nude photos of DL
>taken by Ballance during their relationship did DL admit to the
>relationship, stating she'd had it with Ballance while 'legally separated'
>from her husband. When she arrived in California in the mid-1970s, she
>was only separated; Ballance says he had been dating her for months
>before he discovered she had left a husband back East. ('Diagnosing Dr.
>Laura', by Leslie Bennetts, Vanity Fair, September 1998)
http://www.who2.com/lauraschlesinger.html :
>In 1975, after a dozen years as a family therapist, Laura Schlessinger
>called into a Los Angeles radio program and hit it off so well with the
>host that she was soon a regular guest. Eventually she had her own
>show, and by 1994 had launched her syndicated advice show, calling
>herself "Dr. Laura" (she has a PhD. in Physiology).
Ce n'est pas une psy-quelque chose.
>Extra credit: Dr. Laura boasts a black belt in martial arts...
Personne n'est parfait.
>In 1998 she was the subject of controversy after nude photos of her,
>taken 20 years earlier by talk radio personality Bill Ballance, were
>published on the Internet... The same year she called homosexuality
>a "biological error," setting off a long-running feud with gay activists.
Bref, la morale est un bel alibi ou ça lui est venu sur le tard.
http://www.angelfire.com/journal/artdlj ... html#(4.7):
>DL has been married twice. After getting her doctorate at Columbia, she
>married "a very nice guy I shouldn't have married." It lasted 2 1/2
>years ("26 minutes in my mind"), and there were no children. ('Dr.
>Laura explains it all', by Laura Berman, The Detroit News 10/18/96)
>http://detnews.com/1996/menu/stories/70170.htm
>After moving to California, DL began seeing Lew Bishop, a professor of
>neuro-physiology and married father of three. Lew eventually divorced
>his wife. According to DL friend Shelly Herman (interviewed for the
>Vanity Fair article), DL and Lew lived together for about nine years
>before marrying. At some point in their relationship DL had her tubal
>ligation reversed and underwent fertility treatment in an effort to
>conceive. Shelly Herman claimed that DL was pregnant when she
>married Lew, which DL denies.
Rien que de très banal... pour un agnostique ou un athée.

Et comme les conseilleurs ne sont pas toujours les payeurs:
>She opposes mixed-faith marriages on the grounds that it leads to
>confusion in the children and discord in the marriage. However, DL
>herself had a mixed-faith marriage until her husband Lew converted to
>Orthodox Judaism in early 1998.
Pour faire bonne mesure:
>4.11) Did DL really have an affair while she was married?
>
>Yes, while married to her first husband she began a relationship with
>radio talk show personality Bill Ballance.
L'adultère, c'est bien puni de lapidation dans la Bible, non ?
>She had claimed the
>relationship was no more than a mentoring one featuring a few lunches.
>When interviewed for the Vanity Fair article Ballance refuted this claim,
>stating they'd had a passionate two-year affair until she left him for Lew
>Bishop. Only after the October 1998 publication of nude photos of DL
>taken by Ballance during their relationship did DL admit to the
>relationship, stating she'd had it with Ballance while 'legally separated'
>from her husband. When she arrived in California in the mid-1970s, she
>was only separated; Ballance says he had been dating her for months
>before he discovered she had left a husband back East. ('Diagnosing Dr.
>Laura', by Leslie Bennetts, Vanity Fair, September 1998)
"The skeptic does not mean him who doubts, but him who investigates or researches, as opposed to him who asserts and thinks that he has found."
--Miguel de Unamuno, “My Religion,” Essays and Soliloquies (1924).
--Miguel de Unamuno, “My Religion,” Essays and Soliloquies (1924).
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Re: Rions un peu avec la Foi
Mikaël, la redicothérapie t'a ouvert les yeux... mais ça t'inquiète
Pour une version en anglais, c'est par ici.
Jean-François

Pour une version en anglais, c'est par ici.
Jean-François
Re: Rions un peu avec la Foi
Euh, mais non, qu'est-ce que tu vas t'imaginer ?Jean-Francois a écrit :Mikaël, la redicothérapie t'a ouvert les yeux... mais ça t'inquiète![]()



Miky
La zététique appliquée à elle-même : http://metazet.over-blog.com/
"Pour douter, ne faut-il pas des raisons qui fondent le doute ?" (Ludwig Wittgenstein, De la certitude, § 122)
"Esprit : Chacun sait ce que c'est qu'un esprit ; c'est ce qui n'est point matière. Toutes les fois que vous ne saurez pas comment une cause agit, vous n'aurez qu'à dire que cette cause est un esprit, et vous serez très pleinement éclairci." (Le baron d'Holbach, Théologie portative ou Dictionnaire abrégé de la religion chrétienne)
"Pour douter, ne faut-il pas des raisons qui fondent le doute ?" (Ludwig Wittgenstein, De la certitude, § 122)
"Esprit : Chacun sait ce que c'est qu'un esprit ; c'est ce qui n'est point matière. Toutes les fois que vous ne saurez pas comment une cause agit, vous n'aurez qu'à dire que cette cause est un esprit, et vous serez très pleinement éclairci." (Le baron d'Holbach, Théologie portative ou Dictionnaire abrégé de la religion chrétienne)
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