[16-02-20 04:59:50] AQ1: There are 15active members here anyways, lets make new group
[16-02-20 05:42:03] David Garrett: David Garrett a ajouté quantum tiger à cette conversation
[16-02-20 05:42:30] Michel J. Grenier: Only 15 ? Really ?
[16-02-20 05:42:59] AQ1: Michael stop it for once.
[16-02-20 05:43:22] AQ1: Youre not making unit...
[16-02-20 05:43:48] Michel J. Grenier: Stop what ?
[16-02-20 05:44:33] AQ1: You know what am talking about, youre spying on this chat for last 3 months
[16-02-20 05:44:40] Michel J. Grenier: My name is Michel, not Michael.
[16-02-20 05:44:41] AQ1: not even working on this stuff
[16-02-20 05:45:20] AQ1: :Michel-J: Garnier.
[16-02-20 05:45:26] AQ1: now you are fact
[16-02-20 05:45:29] AQ1: not name anymore
[16-02-20 05:45:36] Michel J. Grenier: I’m a prospective buyer and your way of accusing me of spying is very disgracious !
[16-02-20 05:46:01] Michel J. Grenier: My name is Michel J. Grenier, not Garnier.
[16-02-20 05:46:38] Michel J. Grenier: And yours ?
[16-02-20 05:46:53] AQ1: When ever there is 2 sided argument here on chat, you are with some divine powers always awake
[16-02-20 05:47:00] AQ1: where have you been for last 2 months?
[16-02-20 05:48:23] Michel J. Grenier: I was here and was kicked out by Kevin Blundell just for having asked where I could see real operational units, no matter where on this planet.
[16-02-20 05:49:52] Michel J. Grenier: I own a huge property with very expensive electricity bills. I’m not interested to build a unit. I’m interested to buy a finished working product to lower my electricity bills. That’s all !
[16-02-20 05:49:53] AQ1: [22.12.2015. 5:15:51] Michel J. Grenier: I thought the units had been fully tested and documented with tangible results BEFORE releasing them to the consumers.
Le 16-02-19 à 09:40, Michel J. Grenier écrivait :
> Daniel, do you have 1 or more working units and, if yes, where are you living ?
[16-02-20 05:50:12] AQ1: 22.12 - yesterday
[16-02-20 05:50:16] AQ1: same question
[16-02-20 05:50:17] AQ1: 2 months
[16-02-20 05:50:25] Michel J. Grenier: I never got any answers to my simple question, my friend.
[16-02-20 05:50:41] Michel J. Grenier: So… answer it. Simple !
[16-02-20 05:51:06] AQ1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q45BFZcwQDQ
[16-02-20 05:51:26] AQ1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIcMqZ_suHM
[16-02-20 05:51:28] AQ1: now you do
[16-02-20 05:51:37] Michel J. Grenier: Give me some addresses where I can go and see workable units. Simple !
[16-02-20 05:51:58] AQ1: creepy
[16-02-20 05:51:59] Michel J. Grenier: Not YouTube videos.
[16-02-20 05:52:14] Michel J. Grenier: What do you have to hide ?
[16-02-20 05:52:41] Michel J. Grenier:
http://twitter.com/webmusic
[16-02-20 05:53:00] Michel J. Grenier: This is the house I’m talking about.
[16-02-20 05:53:32] Vivek R. (@ Max. R):
https://testimonials.keshefoundation.org/?cat=3
[16-02-20 05:54:19] Michel J. Grenier: Give me some physical addresses, please.
[16-02-20 05:54:37] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): Michel, you need to consider privacy of people. given how the cabal wants to stop this technology, how many people who have bought the units will open their doors to complete strangers?
[16-02-20 05:55:17] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): if you want to give out your home address, that is your business. please do not expect others to do so
[16-02-20 05:55:18] Michel J. Grenier: Huuummmm ! Look like a Cult wording.
[16-02-20 05:55:36] AQ1: You are perfectly trained to speak my friend
[16-02-20 05:55:42] AQ1: and that is bad
[16-02-20 05:55:49] Michel J. Grenier: For sure ! My friend.
[16-02-20 05:55:55] AQ1: just leave
[16-02-20 05:56:21] AQ1: for someone who has house of 3 milion dolars and a photo of ferari
[16-02-20 05:56:29] AQ1: why would you waste 2 months reading this chat?
[16-02-20 05:56:38] AQ1: hoping to save 50$
[16-02-20 05:56:43] Michel J. Grenier: Kick me out so I will publish that to all of my friends ! Ask Kevin if he was happy to have kicked me out and the results about that.
[16-02-20 05:57:06] AQ1: Your friends?
[16-02-20 05:57:09] AQ1: so youre not alone?
[16-02-20 05:57:28] Michel J. Grenier: I don’t own a Ferrari just a Honda Civic.
[16-02-20 05:58:13] Michel J. Grenier: I’m not alone, for sure !
[16-02-20 05:58:16] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): > [Saturday, 20 February, 2016 6:56:44 PM webmusic] Kick me out so I will publish that to all of my friends ! Ask Kevin if he was happy to have kicked me out and the results about that.
this is a veiled threat, and it is not good to make such statements
[16-02-20 05:58:30] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): please do not make such statements
[16-02-20 05:59:14] Michel J. Grenier: Then, give me only 1 address where I can see 1 working unit with results.
[16-02-20 05:59:36] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): it is very simple - if you want testimonials, they have been provided. if you want physical addresses, that is not going to happen because you need to consider people's privacy - they don't know you and you don't know them. respect others as you would respect yourself.
[16-02-20 06:00:11] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): the testimonials have electric bills attached to them... why is this insufficient for you?
[16-02-20 06:00:19] Michel J. Grenier: I don’t want testimonials that could be tricked easily, my friend, just 1 address, no matter where on this planet.
[16-02-20 06:01:09] AQ1: You have friends you say, split the bill buy unit.
[16-02-20 06:01:41] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): in other words, people who have posted testimonials are liars? going by that premise, even if you walk into someone's home and see a unit working there with appliances attached to it, and the home owner shows you a drop in electric bill, you're still going to call BS and attribute it to explainable anomalies.
So. where does it end?
[16-02-20 06:01:56] Michel J. Grenier: Or 1 contact that I could talk to. He could use a fake ID until he trusts me more. I’m displaying my real name, on my part.
[16-02-20 06:02:48] Michel J. Grenier: That is your reasoning, AQ1, not mine.
[16-02-20 06:02:56] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): Michel, as i have said before, that is your business. others choose not to disclose their addresses online due to privacy issues and you MUST respect that. if you can't understand this simple concept, there is no point discussing further.
[16-02-20 06:03:37] AQ1: [28.12.2015. 15:39:18] Michel J. Grenier: Kevin,
If I understand well, many units have already been shipped and installed in Europa and Africa, on October, giving ample time for conditioning.
Can I get some adresses and names of people in Holland, Monaco, Rome, Abidjan (Ivory Coast), Senegal, Ghana, Liberia, where I have good friends who could go and see the operational units with tangible results ?
[16-02-20 06:03:41] AQ1: 28.12
[16-02-20 06:03:43] AQ1: same thing again
[16-02-20 06:04:06] AQ1: you can travel to half of world.
[16-02-20 06:04:06] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): if you're REALLY keen to see a working unit, build one yourself. plenty of people here who can help you along. then you can decide whether to drop more money on a manufactured unit.
[16-02-20 06:04:09] AQ1: but cant buy one
[16-02-20 06:04:28] Michel J. Grenier: I’m ready to respect that. No problem. Ask somebody with open mind and ready to share information with me to contact me on my free line 1.888.799.7203.
[16-02-20 06:05:12] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): you've posted the information, people can see it, and they will decide whether to contact you or not. i will not encourage them to do so or not to do so. it is their business.
[16-02-20 06:05:50] Michel J. Grenier: Stupidity, my friend. I don’t know anything technical about cars but it didn’t prevent me to buy a Honda Civic that I could discuss about and try before purchasing it.
[16-02-20 06:06:14] AQ1: [28.12.2015. 16:40:01 | Edited 17:39:26] Michel J. Grenier: Kevin,
I watched the launch on the Internet on October, with the Ambassadors, mainly from Africa.
I saw them receiving free units for their country. More than 2 months passed since then. My understanding is that it takes around 3-4 weeks for the conditioning of the units. We are at 10 weeks now so some units must already produce some results.
I’m not a technician. I’m not interested by building units.
When I want a car, I buy it. I don’t need to know all the technical stuff about the car.
I just want to drive it and know how many miles per gallon I can get.
The same with the Magrav. I just want to plug it and wait 3-4 weeks, if needed, and see the results on my electricity bills.
Like with cars, I would appreciate to see one really operational and try it, if needed.
So… where could I go, or my friends, to see Magrav operational units with results ?
[16-02-20 06:06:18] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): Magravs is not a Honda Civic or a kitchen blender
[16-02-20 06:06:20] AQ1: youve said exactly same 2 months ago
[16-02-20 06:06:34] AQ1: why do you repeat your self in perfect timing
[16-02-20 06:07:44] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): in that case, wait till 1 million people in your area have working units. then you buy yours. in the meantime, just wait.
[16-02-20 06:07:52] Michel J. Grenier: And it reduced my gas bills a lot. The same reasoning with my electricity bills. It costs me over $700 a month for electricity where the electricity cost is the cheapest in North America.
[16-02-20 06:08:31] Michel J. Grenier: Because you never answer my simple question. What do you not understand in that simple question ?
[16-02-20 06:09:11] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): your simple question has already been answered simply. if you fail to understand, then the ball is in your court
[16-02-20 06:09:18] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): there is nothing further to discuss
[16-02-20 06:09:19] Michel J. Grenier: It looks like a big fraud the way you’re acting up with serious prospective customers.
[16-02-20 06:09:49] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): your questions make you look like a paid shill
[16-02-20 06:09:59] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): it seems that way to the rest of us
[16-02-20 06:10:02] Michel J. Grenier: You’re acting like Cult leaders, my friends !
[16-02-20 06:10:25] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): is it fair that i make such a statement? no. in the same way that you calling us frauds and cult members is also not fair
[16-02-20 06:10:40] Michel J. Grenier: I must be a troll, then, paid by big governments and blah ! blah ! blah !
[16-02-20 06:11:01] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): your question has been answered. if you don't like it, that's your business.
[16-02-20 06:11:05] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): we're done here.
[16-02-20 06:11:27] Michel J. Grenier: Cult members language
[16-02-20 06:12:01] Vivek R. (@ Max. R): Vivek R. (@ Max. R) a éjecté Michel J. Grenier de cette conversation
[16-02-20 06:12:03] Michel J. Grenier: Having over 300 000 000 members but only 15 active here