Le "master-mind" de 9/11 se confesse...

[Petrov]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a été détenu et torturé et a "avouez" avoir été le cerveau qui a organisé 9/11 et d'autres événements terroriste passé et futur. Bien sur on peut douter de son témoignage, pas parce qu'on sait que 9/11 est un complot mais puisqu'il a été torturé on a pu lui faire dire n'importe quoi. D'ailleurs, dans ces avoeux il mentionne qu'il avait pour plan d'attaquer la Plaza Bank. Le probleme c'est que celle ci est arrivé en 2006 et que KSH a été arreté en 2002.

http://www.rense.com/general75/kkl.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=5087

Encore des belles histoires inventées... Ils vont finir par y croire, les globalistes, à leurs mensonges!

[adhemar]

Pfff, tu lis vraiment pas les sujets que tu commence, ça fait vraiment pitié à voir.

JF en a parlé dans un autre topic hier. J'ai réagi en disant qu'il avait déjà avoué sur Al-Jazeera avant d'être capturé.

Et toi, à force de répéter tes aneries, tu finis par y croire ?

Adhémar

[Petrov]

Comment peut-il prétendre de vouloir s'attaquer à la Plaza Bank alors qu'elle n'existait meme pas quand il n'était pas captif? C'est toi qui gobe n'importe quoi, leurs histoires ne tiennent pas la route presque à chaque fois!

[MOSSAD]

Les aveux obtenus sous la torture ne valent rien en cour de justice, c'est bien connu... sauf depuis que les USA ont commencé à ignorer complètement tous les accord internationaux des Droits de l'Homme.

[MOSSAD]

autre article intéressant que je te conseile Petrov:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: The Wally-World of Wickedness!

Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Signs Of The Times
Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:07 EDT

LIEN

In addition, Sheikh Mohammed ALSO confessed to playing a leading role in THIRTY - yes, count them: 30 - additional terrorist plots! This a stunning range of terrorist activities he claims to have had a hand in including both the 1993 and 2001 assaults on the World Trade Center, as well as the beheading of the Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, attacks on Heathrow airport, Big Ben and Canary Wharf in UK, and still more!

Time Magazine remarks - with tongue in cheek, I suspect - that KSM "came across as an earnest, somewhat chatty mass murderer taking credit for plans to detonate the Panama Canal as well as New York City landmarks like the stock exchange. He also mentions assassination plots directed at former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton as well as Pope John Paul II. Several of the conspiracies he cited, notably the one involving President Carter, have not previously been disclosed."

(Edité par Denis) Un long URL rendait toute la page un peu plus large que l'écran, ce qui gênait un peu la lecture. Je me suis permis de le cacher sous un titre.

[BenGarno]

HA HA - cette fois, Petrov a vu juste ... qu'on le veuille ou non - !!!

March 15, 2007
'Plaza Bank' in Washington on al-Qaida list
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/642 ... ssion.html
Extrait :
... A document released by the Pentagon says the "Plaza Bank" in Washington was on al-Qaida's list of targets...

... The document is the censored transcript of the closed-door tribunal at Guantanamo Bay for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (HAH'-leed shayk moh-HAH'-med). It says he confessed to planning Nine Eleven and 30 other plots...

Ce qui est complètement impossible, puisque Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a été arrêté bien avant que la Plaza Bank de Washington soit fondée ........ en 2006.

http://www.plazabankwa.com/about.asp
.. FOUNDED IN EARLY 2006, with a vision of creating the leading commercial bank in the Pacific Northwest, Plaza Bank’s story quickly...

Simple question de base :
Comment un terroriste qui a été arrêté en 2003 a pu planifier d’attaquer un organisme qui sera fondé en 2006 ?!?!?!?

[MOSSAD]

Le dernier article de Bollyn porte là-dessus:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Ahm ... Qadus.html

THE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF AN IMPOSTER

It was reported on March 1, 2003, that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had been captured during a raid on an apartment in Rawalpindi, the sister city of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad:

"According to the local media, Khalid was seized while in the house of one Ahmed Abdul Qudoos, who, it turns out, is a mentally feeble person - he is also being held in custody as an al-Qaeda member - and as such receives a regular stipend from a United Nations organization,"
- Pakistani journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad, early March 2003.

Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EC06Df04.html



This was reported in the Pakistani and Indian press, which carried photos of the feeble-minded Ahmed Abdul Qudoos. It is also reported near the bottom of the following page with a photo of the arrested feeble-minded Qudoos.

Is Ahmed Abdul Qudoos being used as the imposter for the dead KSM? Is this all a big deception to use a feeble-minded person as the scapegoat for all of the false flag terror attacks of the past 14 years? If it is, and it certainly appears to be, it is about as low as a government can possibly go.

Unless the person who is claiming to be the terror mastermind of 911 is brought to the United States and put on trial in which all the evidence is presented, there is nothing to convince us that there is any truth in these incredible claims coming from a super-secret tribunal held behind the closed doors of Camp Delta in Quantanamo, Cuba.

[Denis]

Salut surtout à BenGarno,

Encore une trottinette.

Que, dans cette histoire de "Plaza Bank", quelqu'un ait fait une erreur quelque part ou qu'il y ait eu un malentendu, c'est tout à fait dans l'ordre naturel des choses. La perfection n'est pas de ce monde.

Je profite de te retrouver pour te rappeler ce message de toi, tiré d'une autre enfilade (sur les constructions martiennes) :

Es-tu d'accord avec moi que l'hypothèse des "glass tubes" est un "quasi-closed case" ?
Denis

Hum - non, je ne suis pas convaincu.
Donne-moi une semaine pour faire plus de recherches - je te reviendrai là-dessus.

Après 9 jours, as-tu pu te faire une opinion ?

Si tu veux poursuivre la détorsion là-dessus, une bonne façon d'avancer serait que tu me dises, entre les quatre questions de ce message, où nous cessons d'être d'accord. Si nous le cessons de l'être quelque part, évidemment.

Denis

[adhemar]

Comment peut-il prétendre de vouloir s'attaquer à la Plaza Bank alors qu'elle n'existait meme pas quand il n'était pas captif? C'est toi qui gobe n'importe quoi, leurs histoires ne tiennent pas la route presque à chaque fois!

A nouveau, lis le message dont je t'ai parlé.

Je t'ai dis que pour moi, les aveux obtenus sous la torture (ce qui a probablement été le cas) n'ont aucune valeur. Il aurait pu avouer être le grand chef des reptiliens que ça ne m'aurait fait ni chaud ni froid.

Mais sinon, que pense des aveux de Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (suite à un interview réalisé le 21 avril 2002 par un journaliste d'Al-Jazeera) ?

[BenGarno]

quelqu'un ait fait une erreur quelque part

Une autre erreur ici :
http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/03/15 ... index.html
Extrait :
MERGENER: Many of the plots Mohammed claimed to be a part of, including a plan to kill U.S. Presidents Carter and Clinton, were never carried out.
Calcul
Ainsi, KSM a planifié de tuer le président Carter ?!?
KSM n’avait même pas 18 ans à cette époque.
Conclusion = un autre mensonge de la clique militaire de GW Bush ...
Comme les ADM de l'Irak,
comme le soutien de Saddam aux terroristes ..... et j'en passe.

Que valent des aveux arrachés par la torture ?!?
Absolument RIEN - le supplicié dira n'importe quoi pour que des souffrances cessent.

La torture est un moyen non pas d’obtenir la vérité,
mais bien d’obtenir ce que les tortionnaires veulent entendre.



Quand aux "glass tubes" - je n'ai rien trouvé de nouveau.
Mais je continuerai à chercher.

À +

[Petrov]

9/11 c'est trop évident que c'est un complot, mais y'a encore des naifs qui croient nos gouvernements! Ce sont des menteurs, pourquoi leurs faites-vous confiance?

[Denis]

Salut surtout à BenGarno,

Tu dis :

Une autre erreur ici :
http://www.cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/03/15 ... index.html
Extrait :
MERGENER: Many of the plots Mohammed claimed to be a part of, including a plan to kill U.S. Presidents Carter and Clinton, were never carried out.
Calcul
Ainsi, KSM a planifié de tuer le président Carter ?!?
KSM n’avait même pas 18 ans à cette époque.

Erreur, malentendu ou exagération, comment les distinguer ?

Moi, je ne vois rien d'étonnant à ce qu'un jeune fanatique rêve de tuer le "chef des ennemis mécréants" et qu'il imagine diverses façons de le faire. Puis, les malentendus, les exagérations et les biais d'interprétation transforment ça en "il a planifié un coup concret".

À ce compte là, je ne sais pas combien de fois j'ai "planifié" de tuer ma belle-mère.

Tu dis aussi :

Quand aux "glass tubes" - je n'ai rien trouvé de nouveau.
Mais je continuerai à chercher.

Ce qui m'attriste, c'est que tu n'aies même pas pris deux minutes pour me dire si on était d'accord sur mes 4 petites questions cristallines et robustement concrètes.

Candidement, je mets ça sur le compte de la mauvaise foi.

À moins que tu aies une meilleure explication.

Denis

[MOSSAD]

Dernière nouvelle:
Édition spéciale de la Saint-Patrick

The Strange Fruit of Torture: The Confession Backfired
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS, March 17 / 18, 2007 T
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts03172007.html

[MOSSAD]

L'idéologie raciste nationaliste du sionisme politique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHA2NLzrcYE

“I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the Palestinian child's existence infers that generations will go on, but the man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do." Ariel Sharon, ex-Prime Minister, in an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.

" using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes [and] against recalcitrant Arabs as an experiment. the squeamishness about the use of gas [...] We cannot in any circumstamstances acquiesce in the non-utilisation of any weapons which are available to procure a speedy termination of the disorder which prevails on the frontier.” Winston Churchill, then Secretary of State at the British War Office, authorising RAF Middle East Command to attack rebelling Iraqis with chemical weapons, 1919

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

“The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." Israeli Prime Minister Menahim Begin in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

Simon Peres demande que l'Iran soit exclu de l'ONU...
Mais qu'attend l'ONU pour jeter dehors Israël en premier lieu?

[Denis]

Salut Mossad,

Petite question technique sur une de vos citations :

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

S'agit-t-il d'une citation de Ben-Gurion ou de Koenig ?

Denis

[MOSSAD]

c'est définitivement Keonig...
J'avais pas vérifé celle-ci

c'était Northern District Commissioner d'Israël Israel Koenig, rapport sur les Arabes Israéliens en Galilée appelé le 'Koenig Memorandum'.

[Denis]

Salut Mossad,

Tu dis :

c'est définitivement Keonig...
(...)
le 'Koenig Memorandum'.

Je lis ici que le "Koenig Memorandum" est de 1976.

Pourtant, l'autre "source" (Ben-Gurion) remonterait à 1948.

Google ne permet pas de trancher. Une recherche avec Ben-Gurion a trouvé 652 pages, presque autant que les 661 qu'on obtient avec Koenig.

Ton "définitivement" est-il autant coulé dans le béton que tes autres convictions ? Est-il représentatif de ta façon habituelle de gérer tes opinions ?

Denis

[MOSSAD]

Ton lien sur wikipedia dit:

"both the Tel Aviv magazine, New Outlook and the New York newspaper Jewish Press reported in the fall of 1976 that Koenig had collaborated with prominent activists in Mapai, the party of Ben-Gurion,"

ce qui expliquerait la confusion des citations par la proximité idéologico-politique de ces sales sionistes...

D'autre part, Google c'est pas une référence bien solide pour départager le mythe de la réalité!

Cette confusion concernant qui a vraiment dit cette tirade raciste sioniste ne fait que démontrer à quel point la pensée sioniste est forme de pensée unique.

Que ce soit Ben-Gurion ou Koenig n'est pas le point le plus important.

Ce que ça révèle, c'est le racisme fondamental de cette position sioniste.

Bien sûr les sionistes vont nier la véracité de ces citations... Ils faut bien qu'ils se défendent aux yeux du monde pour leurs immondes atrocités.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
—David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

?????


The Hidden History of Zionism:

The Koenig Report stated this policy even more bluntly: We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population. [41] Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, declaimed: "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves; [42] These
are the words of Uri Lubrani, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, in 1960: "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters; [43] Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Armed Forces stated: We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel ... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours. [44] Eitan elaborated before the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee: When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do will be to scurry around like drugged roaches in a bottle. [45]

http://www.ziopedia.org/index2.php?opti ... =1&id=3098

Connaissez-vous le groupe terroriste Juif sioniste appelé Irgun qui a fait sauté l'hôtel King David en 1946? (Le ministre de la sécurité intérieure américaine Michael Chertoff bvient d'une famille militante de Irgun) Jabotinsky, le fondateur de ce goupe terroriste sioniste disait qu'ils devraient utiliser le terrorisme pour arriver à leurs fins. Le Likud est le parti politique qui en est émergé. Sharon a continué à utiliser ces tactiques d'humiliation et de terreur à l'enderoit des Palestiniens. Et maintenant, depuis le 9/11, ce sont les Palestiniens qu'on traite de terroristes!

[MOSSAD]

Autres citations dans le même genre inhumain. De la bouche de fervents sionistes.

" [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

13. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

14. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum" ??????

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

26. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

27. "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920)

[Abel Chemoul]

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed a été détenu et torturé et a "avouez" avoir été le cerveau qui a organisé 9/11 et d'autres événements terroriste passé et futur. Bien sur on peut douter de son témoignage, pas parce qu'on sait que 9/11 est un complot mais puisqu'il a été torturé on a pu lui faire dire n'importe quoi. D'ailleurs, dans ces avoeux il mentionne qu'il avait pour plan d'attaquer la Plaza Bank. Le probleme c'est que celle ci est arrivé en 2006 et que KSH a été arreté en 2002.

Le problème surtout c'est que Petrov comme d'hab vient nous balancer sur ce forum n'importe quelle pseudo-info glanée ailleurs sans réfléchir une seule seconde à ce que cela peut bien signifier.
La Plaza Bank en question n'est pas un immeuble mais une simple société bancaire de taille moyenne (et destinée à la communauté latino) qui occupe un étage du seulement 7ème building le plus haut de Seattle. Bref même si elle avait existé il y a 5 ans, on se demande bien pourquoi un objectif aussi insignifiant aurait pu intéresser des islamistes. Et comme KSM a expliqué que son but était de viser les ""tallest buildings in California and Washington State" il est évident qu'il a simplement fait une confusion, et qu'il faisait probablement allusion au gratte-ciel le plus haut de Seattle qui s'appelait jusqu'en 2005 la Bank of America Tower et qui est reliée structurellement à un autre immeuble plus petit nommé la Bank of America Fifth Avenue Plaza.

HA HA - cette fois, Petrov a vu juste ... qu'on le veuille ou non - !!!

Si quelqu'un avait encore des doutes...

Et à part ça, vous êtes mignons mais on ne vous a pas attendus pour ne pas prendre pour argent comptant tout ce que pouvait sortir KSM. Même la Commission officielle du 9/11 souligne qu'il a tendance à en rajouter pour se donner le beau rôle de "super-terroriste". Ce qui n'empêche pas que son implication dans les attentats du 11 septembre est clairement établie.

[Abel Chemoul]

Salut Mossad,

Tu dis :

c'est définitivement Keonig...
(...)
le 'Koenig Memorandum'.

Je lis ici que le "Koenig Memorandum" est de 1976.

Pourtant, l'autre "source" (Ben-Gurion) remonterait à 1948.

Google ne permet pas de trancher. Une recherche avec Ben-Gurion a trouvé 652 pages, presque autant que les 661 qu'on obtient avec Koenig.

Ton "définitivement" est-il autant coulé dans le béton que tes autres convictions ? Est-il représentatif de ta façon habituelle de gérer tes opinions ?

Denis

Ici on trouve ceci:

Hoax Quote

In addition, the MSU unabashedly used a fake quote to promote their Anti-Zionism Week. The publicity material included the following alleged quote attributed to former Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion: "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

Phil Schlesinger, a UC Irvine student, requested a source for the alleged statement. In a June 2 email, MSU representative Fatima Ibrahim claimed that Ben-Gurion made the statement to his General Staff in May 1948, and she cited the "Koenig Report," a leaked 1976 policy report by Israel Koenig, the Northern District Commissioner of Israel’s Interior Ministry.

In a second email that day, she advised Schlesinger to "read the memorandum closely and if you still can’t find it, you can tell me and I will bring the whole memorandum with the quote pointed out."
CAMERA provided Schlesinger with the "Koenig Report" which does not contain the alleged statement or any other by Ben-Gurion. When confronted with this information, Ibrahim revised her story:

first of all I am not going to spend time 1 week before finals to search for the quote (which is your responsibility)...the quote is a famous quote that can be looked up in many books such as "BEN-GURION, A BIOGRAPHY", by Michael Ben-Zohar [sic].


"Remember," she added, "that the Koenig Report was your initial suggestion, which is not where WE got it from."

CAMERA contacted Bar-Zohar, who confirmed that the "quote definitely isn’t" in his book. Schlesinger requested that the MSU retract the quote, but the group has so far refused.

Et pour la citation de Sharon on trouve là:

FABRICATED

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon

I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the Palestinian child's existence infers that generations will go on, but the man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian woman is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do.

Source given: Ariel Sharon in an interview with General Ouze Merham in 1956

Investigation: This quote was found on hundreds of Arab Web sites, and indeed, seems to be a a staple of anti-Israel propaganda. It cannot be found, however, in any text book, news article, or published record, nor is there any mention or record of a General Ouze Merham anywhere else. (Another giveaway is that the term “Palestinian” was not in use in 1956. It only came into vogue in the 1960's.)

Student columnist Mariam Sobh used the quote in her December 11, 2003 Daily Illinicolumn, but later had to apologize.

Summary: Fabricated quote, fabricated source.

Quant à celle de Churchill:

4) Another truncated Churchill quotation--the one about poison gas--has so
long been the preserve of the Raving Loony Lobby that one is surprised to
find Mr. Lind using it. The COMPLETE memorandum reads:


“I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have
definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour
of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer
affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell
and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas.


“I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The
moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a
minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can
be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and
yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.”


No doubt Mr. Lind never bothered to look up the original--and to realize that
what Churchill recommended here was tear gas. (Churchill Papers 16/16, 12
May 1919). But before he embarrasses himself again, he should spend a little
time on http://www.winstonchurhcill.org --a website he will profit by.

[MOSSAD]

C'erst certain que le ligue B'nai B'rith va contester jusqu'à la mort ces citations...

Amed Maboul... es-tu pro sioniste?


Vous pouvez pas nier que Churchill a écrit ça de sa propre main :

In an article written by Winston Churchill and published in the Sunday Herald Newspaper in February 8th, 1920 titled "A struggle for the soul of the Jewish people," Churchill said the following "Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.... And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present moment be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.... In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all of them, have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt (Ed. Note: He is referring here to Adam Weishaupt the 18th century founder of the Illuminati which infiltrated Free Masonry and eventually fomented the terrifyingly bloody French Revolution.) to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others.... the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus, Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krasin or Radek--all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers is astonishing.... Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people.... Wherever General Denikin's authority could reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish population, and strenuous efforts were made by his officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those guilty of them.... The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with the villainies which are now being perpetrated." End of Quote by Winston Churchill

Churchill a dit des choses très bizarres au cours de sa vie: d'une part il parlait de complot Juif, d'autre part il professait l'utilisation d'armes chimiques contre les Palestiniens. Cela s'explique puisque la création d'Israël vient des protestants évangéliques britanniques. La fondation du British-Israel est derrière ça. Puis lorsque la G-B a voulu freiner la colonisation juive en Palestine, Israel a brandi la déclaration Balfour pour faier taire les critiques britanniques. Maintenant ce sont surtout les USA qui financent Israël.

[Abel Chemoul]

Amed Maboul... es-tu pro sioniste?

Non, et de Sion je ne connais que ses célèbres fêtes. Je vous y ai souvent vu d'ailleurs.

[MOSSAD]

Regarde ce vidéo :
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/psychopaths.htm
Animation Flash : Pathocracy
(par Signs of the Times et les concepteurs de Pentagon Strike)
Pathocracie: gouvernance par des psychopathes. Le cas du complexe US-Brit-Israel.