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Je suis heureux de vous dire que j'ai boycotter le recensement 2006. Ça n'a juste aucun sense que la plus grosses compagnies d'armement au monde soit impliquer.

Voici la lettre(en anglais) que j'ai envoyer à: Stephen Harper, ministre Maxime Bernier, Bill Graham, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton et Ivan Fellegi, Chef Statisticien du Canada de Statistique Canada. J'ai reçu une réponse de Jack Layton et de Statistique
Canada.

To the Honourable Industry Minister Maxine Bernier,

I am writing to express my deep concern that Lockheed Martin has
received a contract to work on the 2006 Canadian census.

As I'm sure you are aware, Lockheed Martin is the largest defence
contractor in the U.S. and in fact the world. The company not only makes
weapons of mass destruction, but also directly benefits from the Iraq
war and is leading the development of the "Ballistic Missile Defence
System"--two U.S.-led policies that Canadians have rightly opposed and
rejected. I question why we are now supporting this company with
Canadian tax payers' dollars.

Statistics Canada defends Lockheed Martin's involvement with the
Canadian census because they say that Stat Can did not have the
expertise to develop the needed software and hardware itself, and
because Lockheed Martin won the contract through fair competition.
First, I question why Stat Can is billing itself the world over as a
leader in gathering and sorting information if it must rely on outside
sources to develop this capability. I'd also like to point out that I am
well aware that once a contract is opened for bid in Canada, NAFTA
ensures that American companies must be treated the same as Canadian
companies, and this does not in fact allow for fair competition for
contracts. The comparatively huge American market and economy (the
"elephant") virtually ensures that American companies will beat out
Canadian companies the majority of the time.

I am also concerned because both Lockheed Martin and its Canadian
subsidiary could potentially be asked to give census information to the
U.S. government under the U.S. PATRIOT Act, should any census
information, despite your assurances, fall into the company's hands.
Due to public outcry and a national boycott during the 2003 census test,
Stat Can and Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi now assure the public that
the contract has been "changed" to ensure that no such information can
be obtained by Lockheed Martin. While I certainly hope this is true, I
am also well aware that despite similar assurances from the U.S. Census
Bureau over a million American census records were used by NASA as part
of a terrorist screening study without the knowledge of U.S. citizens. I
also wonder whether we should fully trust Lockheed Martin, a company
that has been frequently marred by bribery, corruption, and human rights
abuses. And even if I were to accept the premise that my census personal
information is secure (and I don't) my other concerns, mentioned above,
have not been allayed.

Due to my deep concerns, I plan on protesting Lockheed Martin's
involvement in the census. I support the "Count Me Out" campaigns
launched by ViveleCanada.ca and CountMeOut.ca.

I sincerely hope that you will look into these issues and support all of
the Canadians like myself who don't want Lockheed Martin involved in the
2006 Canadian census.

Salut.

Mike4freedom a écrit :Je suis heureux de vous dire que j'ai boycotter le recensement 2006. Ça n'a juste aucun sense que la plus grosses compagnies d'armement au monde soit impliquer.

Si tu as écrit explicitement que tu refuses de répondre tu prends le risque de te faire poursuivre. C'est la raison pour laquelle les organisations contestant ce recensement demandaient d'être "créatif" et non pas de refuser explicitement de répondre. Le risque est quand même faible (une dizaine de poursuites lors du dernier recensement) et l'amende maximale relativement modeste 500$.

Mike4freedom a écrit :Voici la lettre(en anglais) que j'ai envoyer à: Stephen Harper, ministre Maxime Bernier, Bill Graham, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton et Ivan Fellegi, Chef Statisticien du Canada de Statistique Canada. J'ai reçu une réponse de Jack Layton et de Statistique Canada.

Quel ont été ces réponses ? Statistique Canada ont-ils commenté ton refus de répondre ?

I.

Invité a écrit :Salut.

Mike4freedom a écrit :Je suis heureux de vous dire que j'ai boycotter le recensement 2006. Ça n'a juste aucun sense que la plus grosses compagnies d'armement au monde soit impliquer.

Si tu as écrit explicitement que tu refuses de répondre tu prends le risque de te faire poursuivre. Le risque est quand même minime (une dizaine de poursuites lors du dernier recensement) et l'amende maximale relativement modeste 500$.

Mike4freedom a écrit :Voici la lettre(en anglais) que j'ai envoyer à: Stephen Harper, ministre Maxime Bernier, Bill Graham, Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton et Ivan Fellegi, Chef Statisticien du Canada de Statistique Canada. J'ai reçu une réponse de Jack Layton et de Statistique Canada.

Quel ont été ces réponses ? Statistique Canada ont-ils commenté ton refus de répondre ?

Voici la réponse de Stat Can:

Dear Mr Mike:

The Minister Responsible for Statistics Canada, the Honourable Maxime
Bernier, has asked me to respond to your email of May 4, 2006.

I would like to assure you that Statistics Canada has taken a number of
important safeguards to protect the privacy and confidentiality of your
Census responses. These safeguards have been independently assessed by
IT security specialists and the entire assessment process overseen by a
Task Force headed by the former Auditor General of Canada, Mr. Denis
Desautels. The task force was clear in their conclusion: "Canadians
can trust that the information gathered during the 2006 Census will be
secure." The entire report is available at http://www.census2006.ca. I would
also like to expand on some of the security safeguards in place for the
2006 Census.

Statistics Canada is completely responsible for every phase of
conducting the 2006 Census. The contract with Lockheed Martin Canada,
IBM Canada and Transcontinental Printing Canada is strictly for the
provision of hardware, software and printing services. No contractor
ever has access to or is in possession of Census responses.

Census information is, at all times, under the complete care and full
control of Statistics Canada employees. In fact, all census databases,
facilities and networks containing confidential data are physically
isolated from any networks outside Statistics Canada. Therefore, even if
a request were ever to be made by an external authority to any
contractor for confidential data, it would be physically impossible for
a contractor to comply, given that they are never in possession of
census responses.

Public Works and Government Services Canada awarded the contract through
an open, transparent, and stringent competitive bidding process
following all the laws and regulations pertaining to procurement.
Statistics Canada has relied on the private sector in the past to
provide equipment and services to conduct a Census in a cost effective
manner, without compromising confidentiality, and the 2006 Census is no
exception.

Census data are a vital source of information for decisions by
governments and private citizens and businesses that affect the daily
lives of Canadians. The data must be complete and accurate for these
purposes. We have put so much emphasis on security and confidentiality
measures regarding contractor provided systems to ensure that Canadians
can complete their Census questionnaires in full confidence of these
measures. It is critical that we all be part of the Canadian family
portrait that is the Census. I urge you to be part of that portrait.

Thank you for your interest in the census.

Ivan P. Fellegi
Chief Statistician of Canada

Même s'ils m'ont envoyer cette lettre cela ne change rien au fait que Lockheed Martin est impliqué. Et non, je n'ai pas encore eu de leur nouvelles depuis. Le 500$ d'amende ou trois mois de prison ne me font pas peur. J'ai tout simplement déchirer le formulaire.

Voici la réponse que j'ai obtenu de la part de Jack Layton:

I appreciate knowing of your concern about this very serious matter that
raises privacy issues such as confidential data being in the hands of
unaccountable private corporations.

It's an outrage that an American munitions company was handed a contract
to handle Canadian census data. Many Canadians like you have told me
that they don't trust Lockheed Martin with their private information and
they don't want an arms company doing the next census. We need to
protect that privacy and reassure Canadians that when they participate
in the census, their personal information won't end up in some corporate
database. Along with the federal NDP Caucus, I have challenged the
federal government to tear up the contract with Lockheed Martin, saying
the costs of a redoing a boycotted census will be less than getting out
of the deal. For more information on our efforts in this matter, please
visit: http://www.ndp.ca/page/997.

Please be assured that the NDP will continue to seek a positive
resolution to this issue.

Sincerely,


Jack Layton, MP (Toronto-Danforth)
Leader, New Democratic Party of Canada

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