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Re: En savez-vous plus sur le Cas #2?


Re: En savez-vous plus sur le Cas #2? -- Denis
Posté par Curieux , Nov 27,2002,06:50 Index  Forum

"Un site pareil mérite une ou plusieurs visites. Je viens d'y rôder une heure et j'en reviens un peu contrarié." Denis

Le but n'est évidemment pas de vous contrarier mais de voir si on peut tirer quelque chose d'une masse de données dont certaines relèvent clairement du canular, d'autres de l'affabulation ou de la crédulité la plus grossière, d'autres enfin de ce qu'il faut bien se résoudre à considérer comme de la désinformation. Sur ce dernier point, je m'explique.

Il y a environ un an eut lieu à Washington (du moins je crois) une conférence de presse dans laquelle certains témoins avaient accepté de "révéler" ce qu'ils savaient. Or parmi ces "témoignages", on retrouvait des anciens lieutenants/sergents/capitaines/autres qui témoignaient de l'existence de bases sur la lune et autres niaiseries du genre. Voilà un moyen sûr de discréditer les témoins authentiques et partant, le phénomène tout entier.

Le fait que leurs "révélations" eussent pu en d'autres circonstances être considérées comme classifiées ne semble guère avoir retenu l'attention des critiques.

L'événement ne manquait pas d'envergure et pour que de pareils menteurs parviennent à se glisser (à moins qu'ils n'en aient été les instigateurs) dans l'organisation de cette pseudo conférence, nous devons admettre la possibilité d'une entreprise de désinformation agissant à un certain niveau de la hiérarchie.

"Ça se serait passé il y a 37 ans! Y'a quelqu'un qui n'a pas fait son boulot." Denis

Ceci n'a rien d'étonnant si l'on considère le fait qu'il s'agissait de navires militaires et que les corps d'armées sont généralement réticents (ou plutôt avares) à fournir des détails sur leurs opérations. Surtout à l'époque de la guerre froide.

L'incident eut lieu en 1965 et ce n'est qu'en 1974 que M. Robert Galley, ministre des armées, fit une déclaration officielle à ce sujet.

http://rr0.free.fr/GalleyRobert.html

Pour terminer voici quelques lignes extraites du livre de J. Vallée "Confrontations".

"The person who told me about this case, Michel Figuet, was at the time first timonier of the French fleet of the Mediterranean. This helmsman observed the arrival of the object from his position on the deck of the submarine Junon. He had time to go up to the conning tower, where he grabbed six pairs of binoculars and distributed them to his companions. There were three hundred witnesses, including four officers on the Junon, three officers on the Daphne, a dozen French sailors, and personnel of the weather observatory.

All witnesses aboard the Junon, whose bow was pointing east, saw the object as a huge ball of light or a disk on edge arriving from the west at 9:15 P.M. It was the color of a fluorescent tube, about the same luminosity as the full moon. It moved slowly, horizontally, at a distance estimated at 10 kilometers south of the ships, from west to east. It left a whitish trace similar to the glow of a television screen.

When it was directly south of the ships the object dropped toward the earth, made one, two, and three complete loops, then hovered in the midst of a faint halo.

Figuet told me that he observed the last part of this trajectory through binoculars; he was able to see two red spots under the disk. Shortly thereafter, the object vanished in the center of its glow "like a bulb turned off". The trail and the halo remained visible in the sky for a full minute.

At 9:45 P.M the halo reappeared at the same place, and the object seemed to emerge as if switched on. It rose, made two more loops and flew away to the west, where it disappeared at 9:50 P.M.

The next day Figuet compared notes with a communications engineer who had observed the same object from the navy fort. Together, they called the weather observatory at Fort-de-France. The man who answered the call had also observed the object. He confirmed that it was neither an aircraft, nor a rocket, nor a meteor, nor a ballon, nor a disingrating satellite, nor a plasma phenomenon such as globular lightning.

It is very difficult to say that such an observation never happened, or that it was a hallucination. The witnesses were competent observers who were dispersed over a wide area, They were trained in night surveillance (Michel Figuet had received particularly high marks for his ability on watch) and the sighting lasted long enough for my informant to go up to the conning tower, take the binoculars, and distribute them to other personnel.

Yet if we agree that there was an object, as the facts seem to dictate, then as scientists we have to face another kind of challenge. Specifically, if the object was ten kilometers away, as the witnesses estimated, then it represented a disk ninety meters in diameter, a formidable device indeed, given the remarkable maneuvers it exhibited. The entire sequence suggests control and purpose.

Furthermore, it is possible to compute the total energy output of the object based on the distance and luminosity estimates given by the witnesses. The resulting figure is 2.3 megawatts (M.W).

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In the above calculation, however, we have derived the energy figure solely from the amount of light emitted by the object, and only in the visible part of the spectrum, which was seen by the observers. The phenomenon may be deploying energy in other ways - in microwaves or in radiowaves. If it has a material, physical structure it will require energy to overcome gravity, even if it uses extremely advanced propulsion techniques about which we can only speculate. For these reasons the figure we have computed can be regarded as a crude approximation. This note of caution must be kept in mind as we review other reliably observed cases...

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In 1988 I was able to meet once more with Michel Figuet in Brussels, at the occasion of a private European conference of UFO investigators that gathered researchers from England, France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United States and the Soviet Union. He confirmed the maneuvers and the appearance of the object.

An energetic man with a critical mind, which has given him something of a reputation as a "debunker" among the more enthusiastic French researchers, Figuet now lives in the south of France and clearly remembers the details of his observation. He told me he had met again with some of the crew members whose recollections of the facts were equally precise."

J. Vallée, "Confrontations", Ballantine books (hardcover edition), 1990, pp.28-31



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